General questions
I currently have DSL from Bell and want to switch to NCF. How do I do it?
Do I get backup dialup access, as well as DSL?
Can I get Business DSL?
I currently have cable internet from Rogers. Can I use the modem I already have?
Billing/account questions
When are my payments made?
Are there any other monthly fees or costs?
What happens if my payment bounces or is late?
How do I pay?
What if I want to cancel?
I have a problem with my bill. What do I do?
What happens if I use more than the free 300 GB in a month?
I'm moving. How do I maintain my NCF DSL service?
I love what NCF is doing, what can I do to help?
Sharing your DSL with neighbours
Can I share my NCF DSL with neighbours?
How would I share my DSL?
How do I monitor how much bandwidth we're using?
Are there privacy concerns with sharing?
Are NCF office people able to help me resolve home network problems?
Technical questions about NCF's DSL
After I've signed up, how to I get set up?
How do I get help?
Do I have to buy a modem from NCF?
How many email addresses can I get?
Can I run my own servers?
Can I get a static IP?
I'm planning on changing my local telephone (analog voice) service provider. How does that affect my DSL service?
I can't get online. What do I do?
Dry copper DSL questions
What is the difference between A, B or C band?
Will I be able to use a voiceband modem, eg., 56 Kbps computer modem, over dry copper DSL?
Will I be able to send or receive faxes over dry copper DSL?
Will I be able to use VOIP with dry copper DSL?
Will my home alarm system work with dry DSL service?
About DSL
How fast is DSL?
Is 300 GB per month enough? How much is 'normal'?
Why is having a DSL modem with built-in router better?
How does DSL compare with cable internet?
My phone line is rotary dial, not tone. Is that OK?
Usage-Based Billing (proposed by CRTC)
What is 'usage-based billing' (UBB)?
Why does it matter what Bell Canada does? Or the CRTC?
Would the CRTC decision affect the bandwidth included in NCF’s monthly DSL?
When would UBB commence?
About NCF
Why sign-up for DSL from NCF?
General questions
| I currently have DSL from Bell and want to switch to NCF. How do I do it? |
The key to minimizing downtime is to plan ahead at least a week. Pick a date for the switch of service (perhaps at the end of your contract with your current provider, or the end of a billing period). Cancel with your current provider, and ask them what will be the last day of service. Then, when you sign up with NCF, enter this date in the sign-up form ('end of service date'). We'll do what we can to ensure service starts on that day. It's important to make these arrangements at least a week ahead of the date.
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| Do I get backup dialup access, as well as DSL? |
Yes, your NCF account entitles you to dial-up access too -- see this
overview page for more
information.
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| Can I get Business DSL? |
Yes, but only for non-commercial or non profit organisations and costs more than residential dry or regular DSL ('business DSL' is DSL over what Bell classifies as a 'business line'.) Please phone the NCF office at 613-520-9001 for information and to sign up.
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| I currently have cable internet from Rogers. Can I use the modem I already have? |
Rogers offers you internet over your cable wiring. NCF's DSL uses your
telephone wiring, so you'll need to have a DSL modem, not a cable
(or DOCSIS) modem.
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Billing/account questions
| When are my payments made? |
Payments are made monthly, about seven days before the day-of-the-month
on which your service first started (the 'activation date'). For example, a person
who signs up on the 10th of the month and has service activated on the 15th (their
'anniversary day') would have their credit card charged on the 8th of each month.
Payments are processed seven days in advance so if there is a processing problem,
we'll have a bit of time to contact people to resolve the problem (otherwise we'd
have to interrupt service).
The first payment is processed when you sign up. The first
month of service starts usually a few days later, on your activation date.
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| Are there any other monthly fees or costs? |
Tax applies to DSL service (HST for Ontario residents, GST for Quebec). Also, though rare, people who exceed the monthly
free bandwidth may be billed for the extra bandwidth. Please see "What happens if I use more than 200GB in a month?"
below.
If you want your service moved (eg., from one location to another),
or if you change voice service provider (eg., Primus to Bell), there is a $25 charge.
If you change during the first month the type of DSL service (eg., 'dry'
or 'regular'), there's a $25 fee. |
| What happens if my payment bounces or is late? |
If your payment 'bounces' (is rejected by your bank) or is late, it causes work for NCF's office staff to straighten things out. To cover this effort, NCF will add $10 to your bill. Please make sure you have sufficient funds in your account, etc. |
| How do I pay? |
MasterCard or VISA for sign-up, then we encourage people to switch to
pre-authorized debit (to help NCF reduce bank fees).
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| What if I want to cancel? |
Just contact us (best by Office Message from the NCF Help page, but
alternatively by phone, email, or mail). We need five business days to
close a DSL account, so do call us at least a week before your "monthly
anniversary" date to avoid being billed by our billing system for another month's service.
You will continue to have service until your current paid-for month ends.
Note that to keep things simple, we don't refund for partial months and we cannot
cancel during your first month of service (since we start setting it up when you
sign up).
When we receive your cancellation, we'll send a confirmation email
for your records -- if you don't receive a confirmation email, assume
that we did not receive your request to cancel and we will continue to bill the
monthly fee.
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| I have a problem with my bill. What do I do? |
Give us a call at the NCF office at 613-520-9001. |
| What happens if I use more than the free 300 GB in a month? |
Amounts in excess of 300 GB (combined upload and download) are charged
$0.50 per gigabyte. This charge is separate from your connection fee,
and shows up as a separate transaction.
In a recent month, half of NCF DSL subscribers used less than 15 GB. |
| I'm moving. How do I maintain my NCF DSL service? |
Please contact us
a week in in advance so that we can verify availability at your new location
and arrange the DSL installation. You may lose DSL service for a few days during
the move. The fee for work relating to the move is $7.50 or $25, depending on the type of line and move.
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| I love what NCF is doing, what can I do to help? |
The best way to help NCF do more and get better is to donate or volunteer.
NCF relies on support from its members. Donations to NCF help provide
internet access to others less fortunate, and help to improve NCF internet services.
You can donate online at the NCF donation web page;
you can arrange monthly donations there as well (many members donate monthly).
Another good way to help is to tell people about NCF. The more people using
NCF, the less it costs per member.
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Sharing your DSL with neighbours
| Can I share my NCF DSL with neighbours? |
Yes, NCF encourages members to share their DSL with their neighbours. NCF
believes that cooperation among neighbours helps make Ottawa a better place.
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| How would I share my DSL? |
Three neighbours might share a single high speed DSL connection like this:
We'd like everyone in a sharing group to become NCF members (even if only a free,
StartPage-only member). One member subscribes to NCF DSL service and purchases a
DSL modem with wireless capability (eg., TP-Link 8901G). The subscribing member
could connect computers to the router using ethernet cables, and all parties
(typically within 60m and often farther) could connect using wireless. Each computer
accessing the DSL modem by wireless requires a wireless card (most laptops have them built in, otherwise inexpensive add-ons). Wireless security is built-in, and access control can be by password
and/or wireless ID (the TP-Link 8901G allows you to limit connections to only
computers that you specify). Each family could contribute $10 to the member paying for
the service and everyone would have high speed access for a price not much higher
than dialup.
Bandwidth charges would apply only if total bandwidth used exceeds the monthly free
bandwidth amount. It's up to you and your neighbours to manage that. Generally
most families use much less than the monthly free bandwidth. |
| How do I monitor how much bandwidth we're using? |
Bandwidth usage is tracked by most DSL modems. Also, NCF has a
bandwidth usage web page
that can display your bandwidth usage. However, both of these
bandwidth measures will only tell you the total usage by your DSL line; they are
not able to list usage by computer, for example, within your home or shared network.
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| Are there privacy concerns with sharing? |
Here's one way to think about it -- if you have configured your computer to be
safe on the internet (eg., by using a firewall), it should be no less safe when it
is connected to a router shared with a neighbour.
However, if you enable file or printer sharing on any of your computers, you need
to think about how to do that without losing privacy.
The ideal candidates for sharing are neighbours who each have only
one computer (and thus no need to enable file sharing), each with their own firewall. |
| Are NCF office people able to help me resolve home network problems? |
We don't have the resources to help debug home network problems, but please
visit the NCF DSL discussion group
for tips and advice from other NCF members. (Please contribute your ideas
there too -- it's a way you can help make Ottawa a better place.)
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Technical questions about NCF's DSL
| After I've signed up, how to I get set up? |
In most cases, it's simple -- just plug things in and your computer will do
the rest. Follow the instructions that come with the modem for how to plug
in the line filters and modem. If you purchased a modem from NCF,
NCF will have pre-configured it with your NCF account ID and DSL password,
and it should work immediately (if you don't have a pre-configured modem,
you'll have to enter just account and password information; if you are asked
for 'PVC info', enter '0.35'). If you have problems, check out
our DSL help pages,
or the DSL discussion group.
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| How do I get help? |
Check out our DSL help pages,
or the DSL discussion group. Or, call the
NCF helpline, at 613-520-9001.
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| Do I have to buy a modem from NCF? |
No, but the DSL modems we offer are trouble-free. We aren't
equipped with information to troubleshoot other modem types.
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| How many email addresses can I get? |
With your DSL service, you have an NCF membership, and that
gives you one email address. If you need more email addresses for others in
your household, just register an NCF membership for each person.
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| Can I run my own servers? |
Yes. (Some people want to operate their computer as a server, eg., a web server, for others
on the internet.)
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| Can I get a static IP? |
Yes, for an additional $4 per month.
A 'static IP' is an IP address that doesn't change. For a typical dialup
or DSL connection, you get a different IP address each
time you connect to your ISP (an IP address is your computer's unique
identifier on the Internet.) This is fine for normal usage (email, web
surfing, etc), but if you want to run your own servers then it's best
for your computer to be known by the same identifier all the time: you want your IP
address to stay the same (or "static") for every connection.
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| I'm planning on changing my local telephone (analog voice) service provider. How does that affect my DSL service? |
You will usually lose service for one to two business days. Please
leave us a message seven to ten
business days in advance to make the transition as smooth as possible.
If you are switching to a provider other than Bell, you will
need to contact your new telephone supplier to get a circuit line number for us
for your phone line.
If you are switching to a 'digital telephone service' (VOIP) such as
'Rogers Digital', 'Vonage' or others, and terminating your traditional analog voice
service, please check out dry copper DSL from NCF.
We're charged $5 to change service providers, which we pass on to you.
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| I can't get online. What do I do? |
Please see our troubleshooting page.
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Dry copper DSL questions
| What is the difference between A, B or C band? |
The 'band' is a rough measure of the cost to Bell of providing service to your location, and is loosely related to line length. The definition and price for each band is regulated by the CRTC. Bands range from dense urban areas ('band A') to difficult-to-access sparsely-populated locations ('band G'). |
| Will I be able to use a voiceband modem, eg., 56 Kbps computer modem, over dry copper DSL? |
Dry DSL has no voice channel. Voiceband computer modems depend on a voice channel. To use a voiceband modem, you need a telephone line that has an operating voice channel; you need regular DSL. |
| Will I be able to send or receive faxes over dry copper DSL? |
No, faxes depend on a voice channel. If you want to send/receive faxes over your telephone line, you need a telephone line with an operating voice channel; you need regular DSL. |
| Will I be able to use VOIP with dry copper DSL? |
Yes, VOIP sends its information over the internet (DSL) channel, so you can use VOIP (Voice Over IP) on dry (or regular) DSL. VOIP works with an internet connection of any sort, provided it is fast enough. |
| Will my home alarm system work with dry DSL service? |
Home alarm systems typically send their signals over the voice part of
a phone line, and thus may not work with Dry DSL, since it has no voice channel. However, you should
check with the supplier of your alarm service to find out what needs to be
done, if anything, for it to operate with Dry DSL.
Regular DSL has a voice channel.
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About DSL
| How fast is DSL? |
DSL download speed (up to 5 Mb/s) can be up to 90 times faster than dial-up.
What took an hour to download on dialup can now be received in a couple of minutes.
Web browsing is much faster, and streaming media becomes
much more feasible (including real-time video, audio, and voice). DSL connections
are classified as 'broadband', meaning they provide high bandwidth.
The bandwidth of the DSL data channel depends on the length and
electrical quality of the wire between your residence and the neighbourhood
telephone office. The download rate is typically capped at 5 Mb/s, but if you are
too far away or if your line has quality problems, it may not reach 5 Mb/s. |
| Is 300 GB per month enough? How much is 'normal'? |
It depends on your habits. A household consisting of two adults who use their
computers heavily, doing a lot of web-browsing, email, etc, and downloads
for ordinary computer maintenance, use less than 5 GB per month.
In a recent month, half of NCF DSL subscribers used less than 20 GB.
Activities that use a lot of bandwidth include downloading gigabyte-length movie
files, downloading very many music files, and connecting to streaming-media for
long periods of time. Even with these activities, 300 GB per month represents
a lot of usage.
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| Why is having a DSL modem with built-in router better? |
With the TP-Link 8901G, you can plug four computers
into it and you instantly have a home network. Wireless is even easier. The
built-in router makes all this possible.
Having a built-in router also provides security benefits. 'Network address
translation', a router function, means that your home network will be invisible
to the internet -- malicious people simply cannot 'see' your home computers.
This is a tremendous layer of security.
You can buy more inexpensive modems and routers separately, but not for the
cost of a TP-Link modem (which combines a modem, router, and firewall into one device)
from NCF.
Please note that having a router does not protect you from email-borne
viruses or from spyware that you download. You should still
take precautions
against that.
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| How does DSL compare with cable internet? |
DSL and cable internet are both 'broadband' and thus both support features like
streaming video and VOIP. Cable is shared with others, and therefore the
bandwidth you get varies depending on how many other people are connected and
using their system; when no one else on your cable is using their system, the
bandwidth you get can be higher than with DSL. With DSL, your DSL connection
is entirely yours and so the bandwidth does not vary.
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| My phone line is rotary dial, not tone. Is that OK? |
Bell Canada requires that you have tone-dial (not rotary dial) to have DSL service.
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Usage-Based Billing (proposed by CRTC)
| What is 'usage-based billing' (UBB)? |
‘Usage-based billing’ (UBB) was a plan to bill for internet usage starting at 25 GB per month in Ontario and 60 GB in Quebec. There was so much outcry when it was introduced in January 2011 that the federal government, CRTC, and Bell Canada all distanced themselves, postponing or cancelling the plan.
Aspects of telecommunications in Canada, including the internet, are regulated by the CRTC, a part of the federal govt. In 2006, the federal government directed the CRTC to allow 'market forces' to have more influence on internet prices.
In Oct 2010, the CRTC granted a request by Bell Canada Enterprise companies to allow a change in the way Bell charges ISPs for wholesale internet services on the basis of bandwidth usage. The new scheme was called ‘usage-based billing’, or UBB. See Decision 2010-255 and Decision 2010-802.
In a nutshell, Bell Canada says a few 'heavy users' are congesting its network. Bell Internet (a Bell Canada Enterprises retail division) already bills for usage at a certain usage threshold, and Bell Canada (BCE's network division) wants to make that the policy at the network (wholesale) level. The way it was structured essentially forced all ISPs (who all must obtain services from Bell Canada for DSL) to offer the same retail internet package as Bell Internet.
Bell Canada's initial requests in May (approved by the federal CRTC) asked for extra billing to start at 60 GB per month. On Dec 14, Bell asked the CRTC to allow Bell Canada to make extra billing start at 25 GB per month, which of course would affect many more people (in Ontario only; Quebec would remain at 60 GB) (see File 1478217 at CRTC, a Word doc from Bell in a zip file, from this page at the '7293' link in column 'TN'). The CRTC did not decided on that, but in late Jan, several Ontario ISPs announced new internet packages based on a 25 GB limit, essentially matching Bell Internet's plan.
In early Feb, public outcry and objections by Industry Canada minister Tony Clement (of the same government that gave direction leading to UBB) caused the CRTC to defer the change, saying it would reconsider, and asking for public input. Tony Clement re-iterated several times that the federal govt believes UBB is a bad idea. |
| Why does it matter what Bell Canada does? Or the CRTC? |
All DSL, no matter from whom you get it, is based on phone lines provided (in the Ottawa area) by Bell Canada. (In western Canada, Telus is the dominant provider.) In exchange for that 'monopoly', Bell's pricing is regulated. CRTC is responsible for setting the prices at a level that rewards Bell for providing good networks and that are fair and beneficial to society. |
| Would the CRTC decision affect the bandwidth included in NCF’s monthly DSL? |
At the moment, NCF members can use up to 300 GB per month as part of their monthly DSL, above which NCF reserves the right to apply a per-GB charge (NCF's policy is to not worry too much about that; it's only there to protect against abuse).
As the UBB ruling was written (but is now being reconsidered), UBB would have forced new usage-billing thresholds at 60 and 300 GB. There was also a possibility that in Ontario, the first threshold would have been 25 GB.
We didn't like many aspects of what was proposed. NCF buys bandwidth in bulk and then shares it among all members; it's not expensive and it all balances out. CRTC worries about congestion and 'heavy users', so wants 'toll booths on each of our driveways', so that we each must pay individually. This would have added to NCF members' administrative costs, and would be a hassle and additional expense for everyone. We think this policy decision would not help make our society better.
For more background on UBB, see Michael Geist's (Univ of Ottawa) article Unpacking the Policy Issues Behind Bandwidth Caps & Usage Based Billing. |
| When would UBB commence? |
Usage-based billing changes were to start March 1, said the CRTC, but after public protests and objections from the federal govt, the CRTC announced in Feb 2011 that it has postposed the start date and said they will reconsider the whole plan.
Here's a history:
Jan 31: The CRTC hasn't said whether it will approve Bell's Dec 14 request (to lower the billing threshold to 25 GB in Ontario). The UBB issue is in the news media headlines now, with public pressure on the CRTC and Industry Canada minister Tony Clement.
Feb 1: CBC says the federal govt will review the CRTC decision to allow UBB, altering or perhaps rejecting it (see "CRTC's internet billing decision faces review").
Feb 3: Industry Canada minister Tony Clement says CRTC's UBB decision will be altered, either by the CRTC or, if they don't do it, by the federal government (see "CRTC will rescind 'unlimited use' Internet decision -- or Ottawa will overturn it" in the Globe & Mail).
Feb 4: CRTC chair Konrad von Finckenstien says the decision to defer UBB was theirs, not the government's, and that they (the CRTC) will defer UBB to at earliest May 1 in order to reconsider how to best accomplish the CRTC's goals. See CRTC to review internet billing decision at CBC. You can hear MPs discuss UBB with the CRTC chair at ParlVu (click on 'view this clip' and then select the audio you would like -- it's audio only, but it provides insight into the CRTC's view of things and goals). Michael Geist (Univ of Ottawa) provides analysis at The CRTC's Faulty UBB Foundation: Why There is Reason to Doubt the Review.
Feb 8: CRTC seeks internet billing feedback.
March: With election talk in the air, the federal govt has re-iterated that UBB as conceived is not acceptable. Industry Minister Tony Clement says there is no evidence of network congestion caused by 'heavy users' and, even if, that UBB would cure it ("Bandwidth hogs a myth: Clement"). The CRTC is calling for public input and review, pushing likely decisions into late 2011. |
About NCF
| Why sign-up for DSL from NCF? |
NCF is owned by its members, a large group of people in the national capital area (including you, if you join), so you can have confidence that NCF will look for ways to improve upon whatever our suppliers provide. NCF will always strive to maximize benefit for its members.
NCF is the national capital region’s not-for-profit alternative to commercial internet providers.
By signing up with NCF, you help strengthen NCF by increasing its economies of scale. With your decision, you decide which group/corporation you want to strengthen.
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